Friday, January 29, 2016

Prophets Prey



Yeeaah! I know you guys don't watch the music videos I post and I'm good with that.
This is kind of longish and you'll probably  need a hot shower after you see it, but it really shows the damage an unchecked narcissist can do. 
And I thought my mother was creepy! 
This makes her look sane and lucid.

37 comments:

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

I've read the books where the young women have escaped from that FLDS cult. Warren Jeffs is a total sociopath/psychopath. It's sickening they still let him rule the cult from prison issuing edicts that should illegal. The Duggars have many overlapping beliefs with FLDS in terms of lifestyle.

q1605 said...

In a way you they have only themselves to blame. If they hadn't been brain washed since birth I wouldn't cut them any slack. On the full documentary they have travel trailers parked off where they put the girls with isolation for being mouthy. Mouthy and thinking for themselves. I knew my mother wasn't normal but I didn't realize how sick she was until I got out in the real world. Then I realized what a whack job she really is.

q1605 said...

On the full length version they tell about how his father was admonishing warren for hogging up all the girls. They said the old man was fragile and needed a special diet which they neglected to feed him expediting his death.

Joan S said...

It is about the sex and the control of others. Why does someone want that much control? I think that is in the sin nature itself. My mother was all about control, and she could actually run a cult if she wanted to, well, she did, it was our family. Same thing.

q1605 said...

In his case I think he likes the friction of his nasty self rubbing on nubile young bodies. But he also liked to issue edicts to the adults about cutting things he thought was frivolous out of the lives of his followers. It reminds me of kids who get mad at at their father for having to cut the lawn and writing code and installing it on their fathers computers and have it eventually infect every thing on the internet. And then sitting back and thinking they are supremely cool until they go down and can't get money off their debit card. In case you are wondering, my computer runs like shit and in fixing it I visited sites for help populated by dudes living in their mothers basement and bragging about bringing Microsoft and Bill gates to their knees because it isn't opened ended code like the kinder more gentle capitalist Steve jobs wrote to operate the god of computers .......Macs. To me they are both greedy sons of a bitch's but gamers like to make a distinction of who is the biggest and greediest whore. If none of that makes sense it's because you have never had a virus on your computer and know it's from some code a 15 year old wrote while he sits twirling his pencil thin mustache like snidely whiplash and ruing the day his father bought him a lawn mower for his birthday. .

q1605 said...

If that comment sounds disjointed I had to post it before my computer crashed and I lost it forever. And didn't have time to proof it.

Elli G said...

I recently found out that my mother used to be part of some cult, so it must have a certain appeal to them to have the opportunity to treat their lessers like dirt.

Last night I was watching the story of a couple that got arrested this week for killing their son. They made the boy sell the house he inherited from his father, and also talked him into taking a loan of 150,000 euros in his name at the age of 19. After they killed him, the step father forged his signature and took more bank loans for the debt to reach 250,000 euros. They also used an address of a different guy with the same name as their son's, so that the bank doesn't bust their chops to pay it off. His mother had the nerve to appear on national tv and claim that she doesn't know what happened to her son and even made his little step-brother lie through his teeth about the night he allegedly disappeared. What amazed me is the incompetence of the police, it took them 4 years to arrest them even though everyone and everything was pointing at the parents. I remembered you q and thought you were god damn lucky to come out alive from Barb's hands. Very lucky.

q1605 said...

At the end of the full length documentary they are asking him questions about why he did what he did and he took shelter by invoking his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. The dude has already been convicted, and sentenced to life plus 20 years. I guess incriminating himself wouldn't bode well for any post conviction relief. But that part reminds me of my mother. In our last conversation she copped to nothing. She even denied her involvement in that guys murder. She was acquitted. She could dance into the DA's office and jump up on his desk and taunt them by confessing to it and they can't try her again. But when she talked to me about it she denied it and said I was brain damaged and was crazy. Anything to deny herself one nanosecond of her narcissistic ally defended and disordered personality . I can only suppose her leaving an estate that had been in our family since the civil war was an indictment on the credibility of her kids. They are crazy and can't be trusted with money was the statement I picked up from that. My exes family are old time Texans who saw us all on TV way back when it all went down, so nobody was fooled. If you can count to 2...1,2. You know the deal. My mother paid my ex wife off to carry on what we have dealt with for a life time and my ex was all too eager to take her up on it. They'll rot in hell together.

Bess said...

Some years ago, our Sheriff's office received a big, thick, hard-bound book from the FDLS. This was after Jeffs went to prison. I remember the spine had some sort of embossing about FDLS and the inside had some sort of mission statement that referenced Jeffs and his greatness. Somehow, he had his minions making sure to publish and send out his word to various law enforcement agencies - A testament to the amount of money and drive Jeffs and his various narcissistic cohorts were willing to spend on freaking books that I can't imagine ever got read or even donated to Goodwill. Ours was fodder for smart ass comments among ourselves and I'm sure it ended up in the garbage.

q1605 said...

Bess I am sure they hang on his every word. Warren still runs his church from prison much like gang bangers do who take out hits on people and regulate their gangs day to day activities. I think the authorities are worried that he will issue a mass suicide order and we'll have another Waco or Jonestown on their hands.
Elli, Due process can work for people and against them too. Due process let my mother walk away Scot free and due process is how she was never held accountable for all the things she did later. It worked for her and against her kids. God how rich is your mother's belonging to a cult. My mother belonged to a cult. A cult of two her and my ex. I guess I'll have to pay for being married to that bitch for the rest of my life. If I had snuffed her I would have paroled out by now. I am not religious but if there is a god both of them will have to explain themselves. I don't think the words "I didn't do it" will carry much weight up there.

q1605 said...

Thanks Elli. I have talked with my sister about my mothers little crime spree and it may be conjecture, but we have a feeling if they hadn't botched robbing that guy they wouldn't have needed us to work her way back into my fathers heart and they would have put one in the back of our heads. You just had to be there and see how they treated us in the days leading up to them killing the guy and how they acted after they blew it and re-prioritized their acts. In retrospect I think taking us out and blowing our heads off might have been an act of kindness.

q1605 said...

Bess I was just thinking what a shame it is to think about the trees that had to die for him to get his word out.

q1605 said...

Is it me or does the church's name sound like a feminine hygiene spray.

q1605 said...

To tell the truth my mothers actions at and before her death actually makes it easier to forget she ever existed. She didn't care about us so I don't care about her.

Bess said...

Agreed

Bess said...

Fresh and clean like a field of narcissistic vagina flowers

q1605 said...

Ah Bess! we hardly ever see you anymore. No body can spin a feminine hygiene underage girl joke quite like you.

q1605 said...

I really wouldn't put anything passed a woman who killed her husbands boss for 10 grand and my ex wife who hid money from her husband (me) and bought a boat and hid it in plain site from her STBX and parked it at her new boyfriends house. People ask me how I let that get by, but who expects people to stoop that low. Not me that's for sure. Or I would have nipped it in the bud. I wanted to reopen the divorce and my lawyer told me that stuff happens all the time I would end up better off to just forget about it. Rather than have an exorbitant amount of legal fees. I damned sure ain't going to contest her will and be fighting against a person using my money against me. Fuck you Mom I hope you are burning in hell.

Elli G said...

I'm totally with you on this one q. A couple of people who've heard snippets of my life asked me why I kept talking to my NM. Truth is it didn't occur to me that she is whack since I was conditioned from age 0 to believe that she is the bestest, and I was carefully isolated from most people who were likely to make me see her otherwise. It's not easy for people to understand even if they themselves have been there, usually because part of their conditioning is still in effect and they can't see the plank sticking out of their eye.

Bess said...

Ha!

q1605 said...

It's some sick mix of denial and us projecting behaviors we could never do our selves.
If you put a period on the end of it and examine it all at once no one would stick around for that kind of shit. But they peck away and peck away and what you would take from a person that was not your parent you wouldn't either. And it seems like the people who trash you at the end are the very people that ask you how you could ever hate your mother. As an aside most of the people who joined forces with my mother after I went NC have face book accounts and they have no lack of adoring pictures taken with their own mother and their own families so I interpret this as either my mother got to them and they just use her for money or for what I don't know. I would like to thank them for butting into my family like they owned us instead didn't hang out with their own mothers. Which of course they had loving mothers but didn't hesitate to take up with mine and help her with what ever they helped her with. I am starting to ramble but really it's pretty easy to suck up and knife me when you have a normal parent. I always post this that my sister sent me way back...
“In the first place, good people are rarely suspicious; they cannot imagine others doing the things they themselves are incapable of doing; usually they accept the undramatic conclusion as the correct one, and let matters rest there. Then, too, the normal are inclined to view the killer as the one who’s as monstrous in appearance as he is in mind, which is about as far from the truth as one could well get. He paused and then said that these monsters of real life usually looked and behaved in a more normal manner than their actually normal brothers and sisters: they presented a more convincing picture of virtue than virtue presented of itself—just as the wax rosebud or the plastic peach seemed more perfect to the eye, more what the mind thought a rosebud or a peach should be than the imperfect original from which it had been modeled.”
― William March

q1605 said...

I hope most of that made sense Elli. It's a nice day here and my wife's grandson helped me with that cuz he wanted to hurry up and get to the park. When I say help I mean trying to commandeer the keyboard and hit every key he could get his fingers on He's only three!

q1605 said...

I thought that going NC would force my mother to finally do the right thing but instead her slime just squeezed out some where else....... a la My ex wife. What a slimy bitch. Like I said while ago HER mother gave her everything our mother denied me and my sister. Health Care and about any creature comforts kids from a middle class home consider a forgone conclusion. I went to college and got a degree in Economics long after I could have used it, so I tend to look at finances in a double entry perspective, which to me means all the stuff my mother denied us as children eventually went straight into my ex wives pocket. Or in that sluts case.... up her nose. One of these days I'll probably bump into her at the store seeing how she lives less than a mile from me and I can't guaranty I won't snap and club her with a can of pork and beans.

q1605 said...

I also love seeing these chicks trying to pass themselves off as Christians when they have boinked every guy in three counties and stolen every thing that wasn't nailed down.

Elli G said...

Don't worry, you make sense to me. Sometimes my 3 year old daughter helps me when I'm on my laptop but she can't wrap her head around it since she is used to her tablet and touchscreens. At first she thought that mine was broken because nothing happens when you touch the screen, already making me feel old!

As for the Christian chicks, they are actually realizing God's will. Just spreading some love and sharing the possessions of others who have more than one shirts. At least that's what my mother would tell you if you'd call her what she is, a cheap stealing whore.

q1605 said...

Thanks Elli. My problem is that I am sort of sick and don't feel well for most of the day. But as the day wears on I feel better and better until nighttime when I am a veritable chatterbox. Then I wake up the next morning to see what I said the night before and wish I had kept things to myself. So I go back and delete much of my activity. What I hate is that they skirt so close to breaking the law that you can't really do much about it. I mean my ex only took what my mother gave her so there is nothing to be done legally. But they consistently go beyond the bounds of good taste and it's sickening. Then you have the whole denial thing. And in that regard she is worse than my mother. She used to do things that were just tacky but wouldn't make any waves if she got caught. Things like going to a restaurant and assuming the name of the party that was next to be seated. Going up and claiming she was one of the group who was being called because their table was ready when she really didn't belong to that group. I always hoped she would be called out by the real patrons just so she could be shamed in public. She such an ass she would probably take the table no matter what and expect the people to show their ID's. And dig in and act like she was the offended bunch until everyone was sorry they called her to question about it. That was how she was when we were married and she did it in front of her parents and me and her friends. That's how she got away with stuff. Basically waltz around like she was entitled to everything and no one wanted to get her going so nobody said anything. which is exactly how my mother was.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

The smart ones get out. one reason I don't go to church anymore is the evangelical right has fallen in love with the patriarchy movement, think the Duggars, along with the politics that make me puke, I'm done. It's all about brainwashing. Yes I saw the isolation trailers too. one sick thing about FLDS is the women and children are literally PROPERTY, if even a man pissed off Jeffs, he would transfer their wives and children to another man, with full husband/wife "privileges" think about how sick that is. Talk about weak men who put up with it too.

I thought my parents were normal too until I got out in the real world. I even realized how insane how all the forced Catholicism was. Probably the only thing that saved me from complete cult Catholicism, was their government jobs and desire to appear somewhat normal but even I wanted to puke seeing my niece dressed up to go pay homage to a statue of Mary with some fawning priest by her side. Wonder if they will put pressure on that one to join the convent like I got.

Warren Jeffs is one sick POS and he used to have sex with the boys too, some came out talking about sex abuse. They actually throw away extra teenage boys and kick them out of the community.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

Surprised the parents even got caught with that poor boy. Over on a support board I go to, lots of ACONS getting false charges with the police serving narc parents believing their lies. This is how some get committed. Some lose their lives like that poor boy. I think Q is lucky to have escaped with his life. Even I have wondered how I escaped a push down a stair or a smothering but sometimes I think they keep the SG alive just to have someone to torture and get more out of that.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

They all say the same thing when we confront them. Youre crazy! Hey I had paper proof for mine stealing my credit card, and well, got called crazy then too. One thing they never can do is admit anything.

In a way mine helped me out with her sicko cards with the spirit of OJ Simpson, I didn't do anything...told me exactly what I was dealing with.

I am curious did you have supportive relatives besides your sister Q who realized your mother was a scumbucket the day the estate went to your ex?

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

I find myself wondering why is Warren jeffs allowed to direct his church from prison, this is like allowing a serial killer to make phone calls to his victims family on a regular basis. Makes me think of conspiracy stuff and connections. Otherwise they are effing insane to allow this man to torture and destroy from a prison cell. I believe your mother is already in hell Q and your ex will be joining her. Reprobates. That is where Warren Jeffs and his lot will be too along with the reprobate followers who carried out his sick orders.

q1605 said...

Peep I think there is a minimum entitlement that the prison population gets. Food and Showers and an hour a week for recreation I think. But he sends his messages with subtle hints from the bible. And they are afraid if they push him too hard he will tell them to all commit suicide and we'll have another David Koresh/Charles Manson episode. They kept Manson in close wraps and he would still manage to have followers all cut their hair the same way and carve swastikas on their foreheads. So my guess is it's constant dance between the line that divides cruel and unusual punishment and him having a way to get his words out. Peep, my mother all but threatened to kill me once and the same week without me saying a word to my sister her son was going to be in Dallas and she told me she was afraid if he knocked on her door she would shoot him and say she though it was an intruder. The thing that gets me is my sister barely knew I was NC at this time it was just her gut instinct to discourage him from visiting her.

q1605 said...

Peep as far as I can tell everyone thinks my mother was the sweetest woman ever and me and my sister..... especially me is the biggest sleaze buckets around. That what chaps my ass. She murders a guy and people have ALWAYS acted like she was just having an off day. Or that everybody should get a free murder. It's just what white women got in the south. NO she and her BF robbed a guy and fucked up and shot him and loaded him in his own car and drove into the country and parked him on the side of the road. She wasn't having an off day she wasn't on any med's to be off of. I heard them on the phone luring this guy to our house and after they killed him I heard them talking about washing blood out of the sheets they used to wrap him in and take him off. SHE F"****killed a guy. Oh but she wears such cute outfits. BUT SHE KILLED A GUY! WEll he must of had it coming. SO NOW people are allowed to be judge jury and executioner because she has nice titties? She wouldn't have walked away from it in these times but back then they saw a pretty chick and her tow-headed kids and let her walk. I guess thinking lets stop the tragedy here and now. But what they really did to her kids was to dump a homicidal maniac back in the laps of kids that couldn't undo her stunts as fast as they piled up.

q1605 said...

Peep I've been watching true crime today and e-mailing the infamous sis and we both watch stuff like that and we agree on this that it's not the person who go's to jail that needs help it the poor slobs that get left behind that bear the brunt of this kind of trash. You get the victims family gutted and the family of the criminal gutted and there is no one that can overturn the actual murder etc. There is no court for us to appeal to to get things back to the way they were. I would give every cent my mother gave away to be able to have a 30 minute conversation with my father and double that for a plate of my grandmother fried chicken and sour dough biscuits. But it ain't happening that was then and what we have now is what was left after she gutted us. She never asked us what we wanted in life and what would have made us happy. And if we had told her she would have worked tooth and nail to deny it to us.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

Q you are right about those prisons rules, he probably would still get letters and send them out and make commandments via code anyhow, just like gang members and now they sneak cell phones in too prisons all the time. Good theory about them afraid of him ordering a Jim Jones suicide-thon. If men are willing to give up wives to this guy and do what he did to their kids, those are people who are completely brainwashed. I have read at least 4 books by escapees from FLDS. Have studied just about every cult. Our families were run like cults with mad leaders in charge. Yes Manson got letters. I knew a friend who had a friend who kept a safe full of correspondence with Manson, I wonder how many brainwashed women wrote that sociopath. I told her I was disgusted. I am glad your sister warned her son and listened to those gut feelings. She did it once, another time claiming an accident would have been easy for someone like your mother.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

Its sickening everyone thought your mother was sweet and boggles my mind her name wasn't dirtied in town a la OJ Simpson style though in his case I think he was guilty even after her acquittal. Southern culture is very different from what I can tell. You're right it wouldn't be the same now. Maybe it was that Bonnie and Clyde crap where everyone thinks the "mean man" made the woman stand by or ordered her to help under duress. Bonnie may not have shot anyone but she definitely was part of it all. It's sick they just sent her back home to be Mommy after all that.I agree it's the families that paid and get gutted. You're right she would have done everything in her power to take anything away that made you happy.

q1605 said...

I also think people were very repressed in those days and for a 50's era man to find a woman who puts out like a gum machine was a gold mine of cheap and easy sex for them. I stomped around and chase some skirts in my day and I would much rather find a woman that didn't waste a lot of resources to get them to bed a gold mine. And for the 50's that was how my mother stood out from the crowd of June Cleavers. She got passed around like a joint and never seemed to get tired of it. I swear on my fathers grave I never saw a man at our door ( salesmen- wrong address..... ) that she didn't take to her bed not. one. single. time. I really don't know how I ever trusted a woman after growing up around her. MY sister was telling me when she was about five she picked up a hitch hiker and screwed him in the front seat (this was the time of cars with bigger front seats than back seats) and banged him while my sister looked on from the back. I am going to betray my sisters trust a bit but I was out there once and my brother in law was telling us how he heard some sailors talking about a woman pulling a "train" on them the night before and him wondering if it was his mother was a disturbing thought. I looked at sis and sis looked at me and we both about spit our soda all over and said if it was our mother we wouldn't have wondered (if) we would have known! I guess you had to be there. But it illustrates the difference in having a whorish mother and ours. She was really in a different category than your average cheap slut. I guess she was a bona fide nymphomaniac. She would screw any body anywhere at anytime unless my father was around. Then her legs snapped shut like a bear trap. The one thing it DID do was instead of driving me and my sister apart it drove us together. She really did have this mass hypnotic effect on people except us. My father would walk up and say Barbara I saw you do X Y and Z ....I sat there and watched you. Wasn't me. Oh it wasn't you? MY bad. And off she would go getting into some other sordid chicanery. If you could have had her in front of a shrink and she was like she was at home there is no doubt he would have committed her into the booby hatch. She was that bad.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

Mass hypnotic effect on people. Yes sociopaths do, don't they. My mother has it too and I don't even think I have done justice in describing it and how I don't have a chance in breaking anyone out of it. She sounds like a total nymphomaniac especially for the 50s. Disgusting. To be honest she sounds like a total pervert having sex in front of your sister in a car. Wonder how she didn't get a slew of STDs of the day. She'd be arrested for that one alone today. That's sad she could get your father to deny what he saw with his own eyes. :(