Thursday, August 18, 2016

Just Melvin Just Evil

I am never quite sure where the line between evil and good should be drawn to not piss SOMEBODY off. You get people that are fearful of labeling others and don't want insane people to be stigmatized needlessly. You get people that will tell you they know not what they do/did so find it in your heart to give them a pass. That whats done is done and it can't be fixed now. I am positive Melvin shot so far past the mark and so far beyond any definition that you can come up with for evil, that defending him requires tapping into a level of denial that before now I would have said didn't exist.  If you can find a way to rationalize the life of this man I would love to hear what you have to say.

It's a long one, but well worth your time.

I will say this, if I had been on the dock interviewing this guy and he called me a cock sucker I would have shoved him and his wheelchair and his greasy  hamburger into the ocean and slept well that night.

16 comments:

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

He deserved far more then a bath in the ocean, I look up the wikipedia description, will watch later if I can handle it...but yeah that is sick. This one would be biblically seared, demonized and evil to the core. The psychologists would label it psychopathy/sociopathy. You know narc dynamics were going on with so many who failed to protect their children and who stuck around, same thing like when Warren Jeffs went after kids boys and girls and so many just stuck around.

Joan S said...

Yes, glad that he can't hurt nobody else. What are they doing, going to that hospital to visit him, going to that funeral. It wasn't like it really mattered. When I think of not going to my mother's funeral, I think of what everyone else thought of me, and its hard to think about. But then I think that blame always fell on me anyways, so not so much different this time. If I want to have some semblance of a normal, happy life now, I have to cut off all ties and just say that this person I imagine her to be never existed. There was no way I could even earn that love, for it never existed inside of her. And abuse can seem so normal, after a time, its had to realize it.

And where is the fine line of forgiveness. I know real forgiveness does exist, but it can't be where it allows the evil to continue through, and damage more people. More family members. I can imagine my aunt telling me that just imagine your mother the way you wanted her to be, and that will be your mother, so just go to her funeral. But for me, going to her funeral meant that this person was connected to me somehow, and I can't do that. I am not fixing anything by acknowledging her as my mother, that is only a lie. For she never saw me as a daughter, she only saw me as a captive source of narcissistic supply, and that I was born a slave, whose only purpose in life was in how I was to please her. And this thing lapped up supply like a dog laps up water on a hot day. And that would be a very accurate description.

I know the bible does have a lot of writings about parents. And at first sight it does feel condemning to us, but when you stop and think about it, we never had parents. So that bible scripture doesn't apply to us. If we had some normal people around us they are better our parents, and we should respect them. Its not like normal respect and love doesn't exist, it just doesn't apply to the narcissistic parent.

Thank you for this. It took some time to get through. I did manage to fold a basket of laundry while doing so, but I kept pausing it, for I was not so sure if I should be watching it, it triggered the general feelings, and I guess it was better that Melvin got 8 years instead of nothing at all. For our parents got no punishment, at least in this life. But it is my very own opinion here, we can get entrapped by acknowledging these creatures as parents. Melvin had all these children, that was his family, but he only saw as his own personal source of control. We think of narcissism as someone being an asshole, and yes, that is what they are for sure, no denying that. But I think we tend to forget that narcissism is all about control. And actually you can define a narcissist on the control aspect, and that alone if you want to. And rape is control, it is not about sex. Surely, in Melvin's case it is. So since they like to keep it easy, they do it to children, who are the least able to defend themselves. Then what is even better than doing it to children? Do it to children who are your family, then no one is able to defend themselves, for you are the patriarch of that family, so you can't do no wrong, it's sick.

q1605 said...

Hide your eyes peep I think he should be handcuffed butt-fucked and have rock salt rubbed in his ass.

q1605 said...

Joan, I can't believe their were adults that looked straight in the camera and admitted to knowing it was going on and just shrugging it off as "life with Melvin". Like it was a "Leave it to Beaver Episode". I draw the line of forgiveness at the point they feel they have to hide it. Hiding it shows they know they are wrong and that there are consequences involved by doing what they are doing, but choose to do the wrong thing any way. That kid that took acted out in dance and song should be given many kudos for his efforts of shining a light on these cockroach's It's too late for them now. But maybe it will give someone the courage to "pay it forward".

Really so much of my life could have been salvaged if my lunatics had taken the way they were raise and passed it forward to the next generation and not made us into their personal "whipping boys I mean is it that hard to say something/anything when you see an adult that far out of bounds? I guess it is more involved than they want to get, cause no one in our family ever told my mother NO! That's all it would have taken. You just have to do the right thing when you recognize that someone is doing the wrong thing. ONE SIMPLE WORD! NO! STOP! well that's two but you get my point.

q1605 said...

Joan I am glad you pointed something out about control. You can't look at a child this age and think of it as a source of sexual gratification. I guess on some level they turn it into a sexual conquest but it really just aberrant behavior gone awry. The guy who made the flick's words I liked about not knowing exactly why he was making this film and saying one of two endings will come to pass. Melvin will be dead or in jail makes me think of the way I took on my mother in the end. I really wasn't sure about my motives either. But I remember repeatedly thinking she has spent years making me a pariah, Lets see how she likes a dose of her own medicine. All my mother did was basically say I have worn my kids to a nub and swivel around to my ex and said "how about you are you up for some groveling and debasement?" And my ex was as willing as my mother was to smear us into the sunset.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

I see Melvin and those like him as given over the Satan. I still have to watch it, plan to this weekend and will tell you more what I think. He is a possessed one. I think showing up at that guy's funeral was like having a party for Hitler, I mean give me a break....Smakintosh has a good video up about avoiding the evil and the namby pamby churches that teach embrace and "forgive" the wicked. Lets look at this, all the crap about the FAMILEE and ignoring what this guy was and what he did.

The "adults" who did not protect their children in my book are as guilty as he is. Why are people such cowards? They make me sick. In the old days, when men were men, I doubt this guy after his first child-rape would have lasted very long. All of us would fight to the death to save a child from being abused, what was wrong with these freaking creeps and with it done to THEIR OWN CHILDREN?

I agree no one ever says NO to these monsters. What weak disgusting people. Ok I haven't seen the movie yet, but man, I have to be careful in my watching it.....

Joan S said...

On some sort of weird level you can look at Melvin as someone who just is horny all the time, and just needs it when he needs it right? I saw that same family dynamic play out in people who were best friends to us when I was growing up. A family who literally kept it in the family. I remember walking into a room one time and there was this telltale smell in the air, and I never knew what it was, since it was a mother and her son, and I was only about 10 years old, so I just assumed someone forgot to wipe when using the potty. Then went on picking berries, they had a big strawberry patch, so I was just picking berries, great people, they had a strawberry patch. Bad people don't have strawberry patches. My father plowed down our strawberry patch after a fight with mother, they were better than us.

So we think they are all about the sex. Melvin would screw a hole in the wall given a chance, guess there weren't too many holes in their walls, afterall why would he be going after the babies to fulfill that need that he has. So he attaches to a person who is small, unable to defend themselves, someone who would not dare speak about it anywhere.

I spent my whole life trying to make sense of this thing, it makes no sense. A child as a source of sexual gratification would be impossible for a normal person.

But it is just as impossible to expect anything else from a psycho. What they did is what they do.

q1605 said...

When I was about 13 I walked to the car to go to school. This couple from across the street had this puppy and a trash can had blown over and the dog had mounted it and was humping it like it was a real dog. I thought of my mother then and nothing ever changed. If you read the mask of sanity by Cleckly he describes their view of sex as about like that dog just humping some substitute for a real dog. I have it on a post so let me see if I can find it.

q1605 said...

I can't find it in my post so I will find the free download and excise it from there.
I wonder about the Satan angle. My mother just like to be disgusting. The few times I got to go to s party with them you could see my mother flitting around like a bat pollinating flowers.

q1605 said...

Until some one whacked her with a broom.

q1605 said...

I was thinking the satanic thing there Peep. I think I would have expected to see something animated about her affect, but her eyes were like two black snake eyes that never blinked or showwd emotion.

Five Hundred Pound Peep said...

Consider the Satan angle some are given over to Him. After I became a Christian I felt evil around my mother. This was always true to an extent but after that it was overwhelming. It was the Holy Spirit was screaming in my ear, "you need to get away and do it now". I swear I smelled brimstone the few times she dropped her veil around me. Remember she appears as a nice upper middle class woman to outside people.

I wrote that my mother had "snake eyes" when I was 19 years old in my diary. I still have this diary in my possession.

q1605 said...

Same with my mother. She may not have been Satanic but I won't be surprised to cross over and see her at his right hand, The word I use more often that not to describe to her and her followers is unholy. On one of my first posts I talk of her entering a room and how the room grew darker. And how I fully expected to look under her night gown and see her gliding like the ghost of Miss Haversham from the dickens novel"great expectations". I don't have much to do so I will see if I can dredge it up.

q1605 said...

It's hard to blame my mother for everything. It's hard not to.
She split the atom that split the ones after.
If you could see her and know her affect, you would know why I do.
She started this train wreck long before I was born.
Her presence is a miasma that hangs in the air and suffocates.
Her eyes are flat black and lifeless.
They scan for something good to extinguish.
She enters a room, and the room becomes darker.
I always expected to look below her house coat and see no feet jutting out.
Just her hovering like an apparition.
The looks that she used to manipulate men are gone.
What is left is flesh bruised by years of taking blood thinners
I will ever understand her zeal for screwing people over.
She is motivated by things that are only known to her.
I wouldn't want to know them if she wanted to tell.
I've heard more than I ever want to.
As far as there ever being even an attempt at a healthy dynamic between her and those of us that are left.
It's too late.
Maybe in another life.
Not this one.

q1605 said...

When I first wrote that post above this comment she was still alive. But the grim reaper got to her as quick as he could.

q1605 said...

Peep my mother was evil but I don't think she was a card carrying member of Satans union.